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#21 
Posted xv July 2009 - 03:07 PM
I think that nerf mjolnir wouldnt be good, and I retrieve that volition be expert if we increase the THQ that u demand to go it, like.... 5000 or something
As Shirayuki and Kurama said, if u nerf Mjolnir, u will nerf WS too.
Im agree with their opinions. So... only increase the amount of THQ that u need, or more like shooting fish in a barrel, make a "Post Voting" , and then people could vote and decide what we could do.
Well dont know, as u wish, I merely give my opinion. 
#22
Posted fifteen July 2009 - 03:31 PM
Okay, here's my input:
Showtime, if there'southward gonna be a nerf, it tin can't affect future Mjolnir'due south obtained through the legit God Particular quests, only the THQ one.
2nd, if you're gonna nerf WS like this yous're going to accept to recoup past nerfing wizzies (who need the nerf a LOT more than because of donates/berz cards) or they'll have fifty-fifty less hope of dealing with them.
Creator actually doesn't need the defensive nerf so much equally an offensive one, and so lowering dex suits it more IMO, though making Mjol 2h does this indirectly since every creator out at that place would just switch to Excal or something when they need a Thara.
If Mjol does have dex lowered by a lot, that'south going to make potion and smith weapon prices go up unless that dex is replaced by luk as in that location will be no way to supersede it.
I call back if you're going to beginning trying to bring any hope of true class residual to the server, the issue to expect at is an 11 dex donate set, a berz card from killing noob monsters instead of, you know, berz, and the pouring claret hats. AD going from a quarter second bandage to instant isn't a big deal compared to SG going from 2-3 seconds to a half or quarter 2d. Pressure does go a large cast time boost from Mjol but it's not exactly a killing skill, and equally mentioned whitesmiths are already screwed since they're stuck facing wizards who can quag and/or infinitely concatenation Jupitel. RO's non a melee-friendly game even without the rRO tweaks.
are you serious? bc i call up this same argument about mjor being OP when everyone was discussing about the beelz nerf. Lets go this direct HW if anything benefited from the whole beelz nerf infact they are the least effected course past this nerf so stop bringing them upwards as the martyr of the nerf.
You cannot practise nerf to mjor and not exercise mjor through quest because they are the aforementioned items and it wouldnt be off-white to those that already accept them.
Even IF y'all reduce the dex amount there is no such thing as bounty in another stats simply because creators cant make pots easier. BTW you talk as if you DONT take Atomic number 82 hat or dontates and those +11 dex isnt helping you at all.
god i dont know why I get and so worked upward about ppl bashing hw class and how donates seems to ONLY benefit one course
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#23
Posted 15 July 2009 - 03:34 PM
Even IF you reduce the dex amount there is no such matter as bounty in another stats just because creators cant make pots easier. BTW you talk equally if yous DONT have Lead hat or dontates and those +11 dex isnt helping y'all at all.
People can say donates are OP and even so take them. I recollect these donates/pb hats are HIGHLY OP, but I still utilize them, simply because it helps.
#24
Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:07 PM
just if you READ information technology hes basing everything on the fact that the xi dex seem to But help hw killing blacksmith form
and OFC its OP its not fifty-fifty an official detail
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#25
Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:14 PM
Don't change information technology, or make it harder to go.
This.
Omgar.
#26
Posted 15 July 2009 - 06:twenty PM
Well if you remember about information technology the delay for priest healing is already cut down from the delay on this server. Meaning priest can heal a shit ton faster than they are really suppose to. If the delay were right on this server and say mjolnir was around there would exist no mode for a priest to fifty-fifty tank a WS at that speed. But due to the filibuster on this server it makes it possible to tank a WS. Say if it is changed to a Two mitt weapon and the WS cull to go with a slower assail speed weapon HP's will beable to out heal WS's with ease.
#27
Posted xv July 2009 - 06:34 PM
nerf imo. several people i know are working for i in THQ, and it would be unfair to suddenly increment the points required for it.
#28
Posted 15 July 2009 - 07:03 PM
How about calculation a custom quest for a certain weapon or particular that requires one to cede a mjolnir or two?
#29
Posted 15 July 2009 - 11:28 PM
How about adding a custom quest for a certain weapon or particular that requires ane to sacrifice a mjolnir or two?
How does this solve annihilation?
The item/weapon would need to exist better than the mjolnir for people to sacrifice information technology, then a GM volition but brand a "should the item ____ be nerfed?" ( ___ Being the items got from sacrificing the mjolnir)
Omgar.
#30
Posted xv July 2009 - 11:49 PM
dont take 1 simply imo information technology wud be unfair to those hu have them already..they worked to become it..its not really a "one click omg i have information technology now" matter..just as how the stackable berze used to be but eh.. i hope if the poll results are more than no it wont happen at all..and it woudnt go like fifty-fifty if 70% say no to nerfing at all information technology will happen nyway just coz ish god item and its in thq and its op and all that stuff..and our voice will merely exist heard on the choice on how to nerf information technology..
idk if they wer but gonna nerf it why is information technology there in the frst place..just seems unfair to those hu apply it..
and of course its a nerfing postal service so replies will always exist negative lol
#31
Posted 16 July 2009 - 12:16 AM
Mjolnir is fine the way it is.
#32
Posted 18 July 2009 - 01:04 AM
Agree with shira, the prob here is this, quick sum going:
WS -
Spoiler
aside pvp/pvm, mjolnir is a normal weapon. Why? read next.
Hurricane's fury is a 2 manus axe just with high refine, correct card and verters and in a not going solo at pvp/woe it works in getting more dmg in the end. Proof? I know people killing me with it thx to lex and pure atk stuff and etc.(6k-8k lexed hurts X_X)
Mjolnir is so adept that i do 1.4k on good players on pvp last fourth dimension i was there.
Mjolnir is so good that i never saw nobody here existence mvp with a ws except me and they're the best dmg dealers in game with right stuff - omg, pots and equips, exist more lazy please.
Tin use shield with it and nonetheless go with full atk stuff and hurt on pvp/woe - omg, i don't have angeling or pots vs aspersio, sorry but is how the game is made, counter vs something is always available and vs bad players there is e'er better play, 2k-3k without lex is pottable, learn to atk and pot at same time and sometimes ignore targets or lure them to some hw skills, etc...
Mjolnir is so good that lots of people do ws to woe or pvp because they come across people rocking and going like gods and and so don't know how to play the grade considering they just leech the char to ws 95 and get get i rock and they merely suck or only get saying you got this and that...
Btw, if i tank stuff on woe with shield broken for near 1h without notice until woe ends then the prob is the players and non the mjolnir users lol
Yes, mjolnir is a god item and makes your build going different but don't make you a god and there is still ameliorate weapons in a way and then it, difference is always the omg +dex and aspd with high atk in 1 manus.
tl;drversion here - Lots of people use probably ws for upgrades/forging then other stuff, mjolnir nerfed won't kill the lots of players that utilise it, even without a shield information technology will still rock, mjolnir is like a hurricane's fury without the utilise of weapon perfection and with less atk and is already wind.
Paladins -
Spoiler
pressure and devo insta is cool but people do fifty-fifty know shield nail with status on precast or force per unit area spam with bragi? People know what is gospel+devo? I see more people doing shield chaining on woe considering of omg is a cross shield and information technology hurts with 500-2k per hit that is insta!!!(no gr on) then people doing the right stuff, people don't even know what is hotkey something with four fabres and mjolnir on another to use simply to spam devo or pressure.
GC? What is that?! If in that location is more than and then 10 people using mjolnir for that is peradventure a miracle and is only for pvm and sometimes pvp with angeling and, well, angeling says all...
tl;drversion here - mjolnir is for devo and pressure and few people know to maximize the utilise of it so what will it exist skilful the nerf? They volition withal stone.
Creators - Oh, right... insta ad... will it hurt more then before? nop, -50% filibuster is the shit backside it. Pots? oh... -3 luk from zheal card is hax...
At that place is always the utilise for bb+lk just... parties to make use of information technology at 100% = don't exist so forget it lol
Srs, the 2 mitt nerf = goose egg like people said.
In that location is always the way of thq = two-mitt and castle items style making one hand simply then complain of omg, they are sometime here and strong and already got stuff for it bla bla, go go price of that shit become crazy like hell, economy get nuts, etc... If it's to change, alter to nothing, is absurd equally it is.
#33
Posted 19 July 2009 - 04:00 AM
Mjol's coolie leave it like that while it's coolie like that.
Fat.
#34
Posted 19 July 2009 - 05:33 AM
What's the point in nerfing mjol?
It'due south one of the easiest weapons to counteract because very few people are smart enough to use converters.
#35
Posted 19 July 2009 - 06:58 AM
What's the point in nerfing mjol?
It's one of the easiest weapons to counteract because very few people are smart enough to apply converters.
That is for WS
Fat.
#36
Posted nineteen July 2009 - 02:49 PM
That is for WS
Which, as pointed out before, is the class that gets nerfed most by nerfing mjol.
For pala = Instant anything sucks compared to a pvp wep
For creator = Pneuma plox.
#37
Posted 19 July 2009 - 06:52 PM
Well, i'll leave it every bit information technology is.
Or well, delete every mjol on server then :\
B> A prissy signature pls :|
#38
Posted 22 July 2009 - 02:52 AM
The fact that i have 2 classes that use mjolnir does not bear upon my position on this topic. I vote for leaving it the mode information technology is.
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#39
Posted 22 July 2009 - xi:42 PM
I'd say no. Though I don't actually like the classes using mjolnir, making information technology 2 handed would suck. For example, WS are already probably the easiest form to kill, considering they have no ranged skills at all and tin simply exist pushed backed like hell. Creators would probably even so own whether information technology is 2 handed or not lol. Every bit for paladins, with they're high HP, they would still rock pressure whether mjolnir is 2 handed or non. Imo, a nerf on mjolnir is basically simply nerfing WS.
I concord. All this proposal would cause is the distinction of WS's.
#40
Posted 23 July 2009 - 07:32 AM
For creator = Pneuma plox.
As I've pointed out time and time once again, pneuma just counters creators in PvP 1-human being raids. In WoE where y'all don't have assumptio and everyone's got a high vit build and tin't specialize to counter one class at a time, it's simply impossible to keep pneuma on everyone all the fourth dimension and when you lot can cast slightly faster than twice per second information technology's very like shooting fish in a barrel to just selection off people when pneuma wears off. In that location's a lot of other counters, certain, but pneuma doesn't do jack unless you have similar 1 aco class for every three people (and even then, the priests are quite easy to pick off if they're relying on pneuma.)
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